The grandson of Ed and Lorraine Warren, the paranormal investigators who impressed the Conjuring movies, is revealing his response to the information that comic Matt Rife had bought the Warrens' residence and guardianship of their spooky objects, together with the notorious Annabelle doll.

Chris McKinnell, son of the Warrens' daughter, Judy Spera, mentioned matter-of-factly on the Reel Appreciation podcast, "I'd by no means even heard of him till he purchased it. I didn't know who he was."

For the uninitiated, Rife is a standup comedian and actor with a number of comedy specials beneath his belt, together with Netflix's Pure Choice and Lucid. He's additionally a giant fan of paranormal stuff and the Conjuring movies, and introduced in August that he'd purchased the Warrens' residence, which doubles as an occult museum.

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That made him, Rife mentioned, "the authorized guardian for no less than the subsequent 5 years, of the [Warrens'] total haunted assortment together with THE ANNABELLE DOLL."

McKinnell didn't particularly have extra to say about Rife on the podcast, however as a substitute revealed that he's "way more involved" about his mom's husband, Tony Spera, "permitting issues out on tour" from his grandparents' archive of paranormal objects, which Rife is now the guardian of. Judy and Tony Spera run the New England Society for Psychic Analysis, which was based by the Warrens and seeks to hold "on the exploration and investigation of paranormal and demonic entities," per its web site.

A consultant for Rife tells Leisure Weekly there are "no plans and there have by no means been plans to take any of the artifacts on tour."

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EW has additionally reached out to the Speras on the NESPR for remark.

McKinnell mentioned his stepfather is "an entertainer" who has by no means labored a magical case. Regardless of that, he mentioned it's "ironic" that he’s a personality in the latest Conjuring movie, The Conjuring: Final Rites. (Tony, who additionally served as a advisor on the primary two Conjuring movies, is performed by Ben Hardy within the last film within the hit horror franchise.)

"I used to be prepared to permit him to do this and simply dwell his second, for my mom's sake," McKinnell mentioned. "However then he began eager to convey this factor on tour, and that to me was so harmful, such a betrayal of all the pieces my grandparents spent their lives doing."

He continued, "One of many worst elements of my grandparents' legacy is that my grandfather ever made the error of calling it a museum. It was by no means open to the general public. That's a false impression. It was all the time by particular invitation, one or two individuals, very small teams with particular directions — don't contact something, don't deal with something with misrespect, don’t attempt to talk with something."

And but, McKinnell mentioned, "What are they doing now? They're doing TikTok movies the place they're speaking to those issues. They're attempting to speak with these items." He added, "To me, that place is the Chernobyl of the paranormal, and it bothers me to no finish what can occur."

Watch McKinnell on Reel Appreciation above.

[This article has been updated with comment from a representative for Rife.]

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