Steven Ramm had a killer second at Tribal Council on this week’s episode of Survivor 49. After which his recreation acquired killed.

Sophi Balerdi tried to steal Steven’s Block-a-Vote benefit at Tribal Council, however as a result of Steven had already activated it again at camp, Sophie was left embarrassed and empty handed whereas Steven appeared to carry all of the playing cards, particularly when Rizo Velocic determined to not play his immunity idol.

But a couple of minutes later, the tables turned but once more when it was revealed that all the tribe has unanimously banded collectively to vote Steven out, with Sage Ahrens-Nichols and Kristina Mills flipping to take out their former ally.

What was the emotional whiplash like for Steven going from the best of highs to lowest of lows? How shocked was he that Kristina and Sage flipped on him? And the way would he have performed with the jury had he made it to the top? We requested juror quantity six all that and extra once we spoke the morning after his televised ouster.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Inform me your response and what’s going by means of your thoughts when Sophi first begins to do her speech and proclaims that she has a Information is Energy benefit that she is about to make use of on you.

STEVEN RAMM: I used to be simply beaming. You possibly can see me smiling within the episode as a result of I simply knew I had her lifeless to rights, that nobody's used the Information is Energy accurately ever in historical past, so far as I do know. And I used to be like, that streak is gonna proceed and it's gonna be alive in the present day.

So I used to be truthfully feeling extremely assured in that second as a result of I knew they have been coming actual exhausting for me to start with. And so the truth that they have been keen to burn this benefit on me relatively than Rizo who's been dangling this idol in entrance of us for a number of Tribals, I used to be like: Oh, that is gonna be good.

How inconceivable is it that you just save your benefit from being stolen, you efficiently block Savannah’s vote, no idols are performed in opposition to you, and then you definately nonetheless find yourself getting voted out?

Dude, I couldn't consider it. I imply, I hoped watching the episode again would perhaps present just a little bit extra readability as to the rhyme or motive behind the decision-making course of. And to me, it doesn't make sense. I felt like that was not an important transfer for me or my allies. I imply, clearly for me. [Laughs]

However that's what makes Survivor such an fascinating recreation, although. It's such as you go to a museum and also you have a look at a portray, and two folks can have a look at the identical portray and are available away with a completely totally different interpretation. And that's type of the scenario that we have been in. My blind spot was assuming that my allies needed to sit down subsequent to me on the finish the way in which I needed to sit down subsequent to them, and in addition noticed the portray in the identical approach that I did when it comes to what's our path ahead? It was wild although. Dude, I don't know.

You talked about you have been just a little damage after being voted out. Who have been you most damage by?

Each Sage and Kristina, however I imply, in all probability Sage, I’d say if I had to decide on, as a result of…. I don't know, man, Sage and I, we have been so tight ever since that first tribe swap approach again once I met her. After which later when Jawan joined us and we shaped the Bottoms Up Alliance — they didn't present a number of it, however her and I have been speaking recreation just about ever since then.

MC was my secret primary again on Hina, and so when she didn't come again after that cut up Tribal, we had plans and people plans by no means acquired to return to fruition. And so I put a number of my religion and belief into Sage, and I simply thought that her and I have been on the identical web page. I assumed if anybody was gonna betray me, it is perhaps somebody that didn't really feel assured beating me in the long run, and I assume I noticed Sage's recreation as being higher than perhaps she thought it was in comparison with mine.

I assumed we performed very comparable video games as much as that time, on condition that we have been each in lockstep on so many votes. I imply, she clued me in on the truth that the votes have been happening Alex on that one blindside. And I used to be like: Okay, I'm gonna vote the unsuitable approach deliberately to not expose the truth that we're working so carefully collectively. So we had plans and we have been working collectively.

And so when it didn't come by means of and I grew to become the plan, I used to be like: Oh my gosh! However that's Survivor, and dude, no exhausting emotions, man. On the time I used to be shocked and damage, however in hindsight, you may't blame somebody for taking part in the sport the way in which that they noticed it.

Nicely let's speak about this. As a result of right here’s the massive query. You have got a number of pals on that jury, you have been seen as a pacesetter on that aspect of issues on the tribe, you received a number of immunity challenges, though I by no means assume that actually issues with the jury. They've confirmed that they don't actually care that a lot about immunity wins. However the level is, you've acquired a very good résumé. Understanding what you knew then and what you recognize now, is there anybody within the remaining six that beats you for those who're sitting in a kind of remaining three chairs?

Dude, that is gonna sound so cocky, however no. I genuinely felt like I performed the most effective well-rounded video games there. I felt that if I made it to these remaining three seats, I might have talked my solution to that million {dollars}. I believe folks knew that. I imply, I had a number of pals on the jury, however I used to be additionally laying low deliberately. My technique was to return in and play just like the tremendous messy black gap. I do know, one other house analogy, however I knew that I'm a likable dude. I dialed up my golden retriever power and I simply tried to play aloof.

However except the Jawan blindside, I knew the whole lot that was happening within the recreation. And I imply, in fact my blindside, that was the opposite time. However for probably the most half, I felt like I had a fairly good learn on issues. I had a fairly good learn on folks. I received once I wanted to. And I felt like in that second, particularly as soon as I acquired that Block-a-Vote, I used to be like: That is mine. That is completely mine. However I didn't need to come throughout as overly assured and boisterous as a result of I already knew I had a goal on my again, so I used to be attempting to put just a little bit low. As little as I might. There's nowhere to cover in remaining six, so I don’t know.

Individuals have been blindsided and shocked earlier than and it's so robust to deal with, however I can't consider anybody off the highest of my head that will need to have had the emotional whiplash from that epic excessive of blocking the Information is Energy to then the epic low of getting voted out. So what have been the following few hours for you want as you decompressed, tried to course of, after which joined your fellow jurors at Ponderosa?

Yeah, it was emotional whiplash, simply one of the simplest ways to explain it. It was like an entire 180. Feeling on high of the world. I simply stumped Sophi after she gave this very boisterous speech. Everybody's laughing at me and everybody's dancing and clowning on me, after which I'm like, “Nope! You didn't steal it.”

And so I used to be feeling up right here after which down. These subsequent couple hours we're robust, man. I imply, you type of play the woulda-shoulda-coulda recreation. You break issues down and also you begin to play it again. Like, what have been the indicators? And going into that Tribal Council, there have been indicators. There have been moments the place Kristina got here as much as me and he or she talked about like, “Oh, your identify got here up with Sage, however I satisfied her to not go that route.”

I used to be like, “Why was my identify even on the market? “After which I ended up going and speaking to Rizo and I used to be like, “Kristina simply stated the weirdest factor to me.” And he began defending, like, “Oh, you recognize Kristina, she's simply generally spacey.” And I'm like, “Why are you defending my ally to me?” So there have been alarm bells going off left and proper, however on the finish of the day, I did the whole lot I might. I talked to the people who I wanted to speak to and in the event that they have been gonna betray me, there's simply nothing I might do.

At that time, I used to be attempting to pitch my case left and proper. And what actually threw me off was Kristina and Sage had an extended discuss on the seashore. Kristina got here, advised me by accident, let it slip that I used to be a part of the dialog, after which instantly went again and talked to Sage once more. And I'm like: We're imagined to be three working collectively. So these have been a number of the indicators.

Was she consuming spaghetti when she did that?

I imply, I really feel unhealthy for saying that just a little bit, however within the second, I used to be actually annoyed. I might simply see that there have been some cracks in that perhaps this wasn't going to go my approach, however you simply hope that issues fall your approach. And so yeah, I used to be simply so annoyed, and I really like Kristina so dearly outdoors the sport, and within the recreation she was wonderful and such an unbelievable ally. However in that second I used to be like: What is occurring? I assumed we have been on the identical web page.

And simply to be clear, your plan had you made on the finish was you needed to sit down subsequent to Sage and Kristina, I'm assuming.

I genuinely felt assured sitting subsequent to any a kind of people. I’d've cherished to have taken Kristina and Sage with me. I believe that I had a greater résumé than each of them, however I additionally felt that with Rizo and Savannah. Granted, Rizo flexed his idol masterfully in Tribal Council. And granted, I didn't know a number of the stuff that he was doing behind the scenes. I assume I wasn't as tuned in as I assumed I used to be, however from my perspective, it wasn't touchdown with the jury the way in which that he thought it was.

And you possibly can sense that trying on the jury's reactions when he's making his pretend performs. I knew that wasn't touchdown, so I felt like I might win over him. After which Savannah, I imply, apart from profitable immunities, I actually didn't know what else there was to her recreation that might stack up subsequent to mine. , hindsight's 20-20, there's a number of belongings you don't see. I believe they each performed unbelievable. So I don't know, I felt like I might sit subsequent to anybody.

It's humorous the way you talked about the Rizo factor, as a result of we as viewers have been assuming like, “Oh my God, he's doing this huge present in entrance of the jury.” However we began to get our first trace with a number of the eye rolls this week that perhaps the jury hasn't actually been choosing up what he's been placing down with that. And it seems like while you have been a participant sitting subsequent to him, that you possibly can type of sense that.

Yeah, all of us simply knew after a sure level he was type of the boy that cried wolf, the boy cried idol. And at a sure level I used to be like: I don't even care if we flush this idol anymore. It's not a risk to me or my recreation at this level. He's clearly holding onto it. It appeared prefer it was a number of theatrics and I'm certain there was perhaps a way to the insanity that perhaps I'm not clocked in on, however that was my notion on the time. Sitting subsequent to it, I simply wasn't as threatened by it after some time. And I believe there have been members simply from reactions I noticed on the jury that felt the identical approach.

I do know you don’t have a Garmin watch on the market to measure your timing and progress and coronary heart fee, however roughly how lengthy do you assume it took you to go round that island on the Journey?

It took me like 4 days. [Laughs] No, man, I genuinely don’t have any idea of time, no idea of distance. All I do know is that I noticed the place the buoy was, and I noticed the place the tide was once I left. And once I acquired again, I used to be blown away that it had barely risen. And I ran. I by no means stopped working all the time. I used to be working for my life. I used to be working for my vote, however I additionally was working for that million {dollars}.

And to show one thing to myself, at a really elementary degree. I'm attempting to shake this imposter syndrome and show to myself that I can do that loopy exhausting factor. And so once I acquired again and didn't see that tide rise, that's my solely indication of how lengthy it took me. And I used to be truthfully just a little annoyed. I used to be like: Dang, you imply I might have walked a few of that? Why was I killing myself? I had a lot additional time. Actually it didn't appear like it had budged.

What’s one thing that occurred on the market that didn’t make it to TV that you just want we had seen?

I’d go all the way in which again to authentic Hina. We simply stored profitable, so there wasn't a lot to indicate within the early pre-merge recreation. However I imply MC, Jason, and I have been working collectively on this alliance that we referred to as Sandy Cheeks. We shaped it like day two. We awakened within the morning and we each bonded over our nerdy video video games and SpongeBob love and references. We have been sitting, our buns have been within the sand, and we're like: Sandy Cheeks!

I felt like basically, I positioned myself so nicely with MC within the center. She was my secret primary in Hina. I had an alliance with actually everyone in there and I felt so nicely insulated, and people swaps simply type of threw issues up and I needed to continuously maintain rebuilding these shields round me. And so I used to be just a little bummed that they didn't present that Jason was a giant a part of that. And MC did present Jason her idol as nicely along with myself.

And so I believe out of the alliances I had within the pre-emerge, that was the one which I felt closest to and probably the most loyal to. And if we had all had an opportunity to reconvene on the merge, I believe Sandy Cheeks might have performed some magical issues. However in fact, sadly, that didn't come to fruition.

And we'll finish with that. Sandy Cheeks might have performed some magical issues. Annnnnnd scene.

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